Ben Stein (and others) on our pushing God out –Where will we find Order?

Ben’s House – Stuff Ben Wrote Herewith at this happy time of year, a few confessions from my beating heart: I have no freaking clue who Nick and Jessica are. I see them on the cover of People and Us constantly when I am buying my dog biscuits and kitty litter. I often ask the checkers at the grocery stores. They never know who Nick and Jessica are either. Who are they? Will it change my life if I know who they are and why they have broken up? Why are they so important? I don’t know who Lindsay Lohan is, either, and I do not care at all about Tom Cruise’s wife.

Be sure you click the link and read the rest of it. If it doesn’t get you going then you “just don’t get it.” I hope if you are reading this, that you DO get it. And I’ll hope to see your comments below. If you don’t agree with me, that’s fine, let’s talk about it.

And Anne Graham Lotz, daughter of Billy Graham, writes (from Regarding the Events of 9/11:
The September 13th Interview of Anne Graham Lotz by Jane Clayson on CBS’ Early Show
…  “Where Is God?”) ( accessed 3/1/2006)

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Jane Clayson: I’ve heard people say, those who are religious, those who are not, if God is good, how could God less this happen? To that, you say?

Anne Graham Lotz: I say God is also angry when he sees something like this.  I would say also for several years now Americans in a sense have shaken their fist at God and said, God, we want you out of our schools, our government, our business, we want you out of our marketplace. And God, who is a gentleman, has just quietly backed out of our national and political life, our public life. Removing his hand of blessing and protection. We need to turn to God first of all and say, God, we’re sorry we have treated you this way and we invite you now to come into our national life. We put our trust in you. We have our trust in God on our coins, we need to practice it.

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And then further on the site bearing the foregoing from Ms. Lotz, attributed to an unknown author, we find the following which pretty well sums up everything wrong in our society today:

In light of recent events…terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.  Let’s see, I think it started when Madeline Murray O’Hare (she was murdered, her body was found recently) complained she didn’t want any prayer in our schools, and we said OK.Then, someone said you better not read the Bible in school… the Bible that says “thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal”, and “love your neighbor as yourself.” And we said, OK.

Then, Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn’t spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr.  Spock’s son committed suicide) And we said, an expert should know what he’s talking about so we said OK.

Then, someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our children when they misbehave.  And the school administrators said no faculty member in this school better touch a student when they misbehave because we don’t want any bad publicity, and we surely don’t want to be sued (there’s big difference between disciplining and touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking, etc.) And we said, OK.

Then someone said, let’s let our daughters have abortions if they want, and they won’t even have to tell their parents.  And we said, OK.

Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and they’re going to do it anyway, let’s give our sons all the condoms they want, so they can have all the “safe sex” that they desire, and we won’t have to tell their parents they got them at school.  And we said, OK.

Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn’t matter what we do in private as long as we do our jobs.  And agreeing with them, we said it doesn’t matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.

And then someone said let’s print magazines with pictures of nude women and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the female body.  And we said, OK.

And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and published pictures of nude children and then stepped further still by making them available on the internet.  And we said OK, they’re entitled to their free speech.

And then the entertainment industry said, let’s make TV shows and movies that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex.  And let’s record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes. And we said it’s just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, and nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.

Now we’re asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don’t know right from wrong, and why it doesn’t bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.

I think it has a great deal to do with “WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.”

“Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.” -Galatians 6:7

“Dear God, Why didn’t you save the little girl killed in her
classroom?  ” Sincerely, Concerned Student…Could the reply be: “Dear Concerned Student, I am not allowed in schools.”  Sincerely, God.

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world’s going to Hell (literally).  Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what God says in the Bible.

Funny how everyone wants to go to heaven, provided they do not have to believe, think, say, or do anything the Bible says.

Funny how someone can say “I believe in God” but still follow Satan who, by the way, also “believes” in God.

Funny how we are quick to judge, but not to be judged.

Funny how you can send a thousand ‘jokes’ through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.

Funny how the lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene pass freely through cyberspace, but the public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Funny how someone can be so fired up for Christ on Sunday, but be an invisible Christian the rest of the week.

Funny how I can be more worried about what other people think of me than what God thinks of me.

It’s amazing to me that 86% (may be off a bit on the statistic) of Americans profess to believe in God and yet we can have pushed God so far out of our lives. Now there is a lot to be said for respecting the anti-establishment clause of the U.S. Constitution so that we experience neither the State church concept from jolly olde England nor the theocracy of Iran and that ilk, but hey, haven’t we gone too far?
Here, I think, is my bottom line on all of this. You can argue fine points of  constitutional law  on a lot of those issues, and in my day job I’m obliged to uphold our constitutions and laws — which I’ll do my duty and do — but we must have order in society.  We absolutely must regulate the way that people deal with one another.  From our basic humanity as hunter / clan dwellers where we lived in survival mode all the time and settled matters with a club have come a long way and can never go back. We have too many people and too many opportunities for conflict not to have order in society.
From Greece, to Rome, to Jerusalem, to London and finally Philadelphia, we have had order. And that order has come from “root” moral compasses, mostly based in Godly principles, and while one might debate whether that was an appropriate root of order, it was an effective one.   This country was founded as a nation under God and that has been the root of our order.
There is no doubt that we are steadily abandoning those roots and thus we come to this question:
if Order is important to civilized society, and if Order must have roots, and if God has provided the roots for American society, and if we abandon those roots, then from whence will Order in America come in the future?
Shall the roots of our Order come from free sex? Perhaps from pornography? Or perhaps the principle that each person should do only what is best for them in the moment? Or shall we establish Order out of drug-crazed states?
Show me a source of Order other than God that will do for America what has happened since 1776 and then we can talk.

About Gil Jones

CPA/Attorney/Judge by training and trade. Hobby nut at heart with BMW m/c, computers, ham radio, kayak fishing, photography, hiking and, starting in 2010 some semi-serious running and bicycling (road and mountain bikes). Retired after 16 years on a Texas District Court bench and since 2013 have been mediating cases. I am a Credentialed Distinguished mediator (TMCA).
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